I'm always saying every RUclips guitar channel should have a DB level meter so we can get an actual idea of how loud something is when they are mic'ing in room playing.
I run my Origin 50 head into a Weber Mass III, then into an 8-ohm 2X12 pine cab loaded with a UK-made Celestion V30 and a Weber Silver Bell. From my own personal experience, I agree that the Origin series as used by most people (turn up the gain, master volume to taste/ before neighbours complain) will simply NOT yield the plexi tone in your head. The pre-amp gain alone will sound congested and unrefined. Instead, because I have the attenuator, I can crank the master volume, and bring up the gain to taste. Then I will use the presence, TMB tone stack and tilt control to dial in the sound I want. These 5 controls allow me to set the amp up for ANY guitar I can throw at it: Les Paul, SG, Strat, Tele inclusive. Just watch the treble and presence controls; this amp can get bright very quickly. For those who are predisposed to hating on the amp simply because it's not made in England, get yourself a good attenuator and try the approach I mentioned above, and be objective.
Its pretty rubbish tbh. Anything less than High and you lose all the bass. It is however better than the crappy in-line resistor garbage other maker's use .. The only thing that really lets these amps down is the DI, which is junk. Every other aspect its a 10/10. The PCB and components look pretty good too. Good enough for at least 20 years hard use. Can't go wrong for $250.
@@cgavin1 I don’t know About that, I have It on the 5 and 10 watt setting most of the time and I get plenty of bass I run mids on 5 bass on 4.5 and treble on 6, presence on 2.5 master on 4-5 and gain 7.5 pulled out
What all these affordable amps have is input signal attenuation. Full power is no resistance to your guitar signal. The power selector is a variable potentiometer to cut input signal. An output transformer with multiple power taps is cost prohibitive for these amps
No, the attenuator in this is terrible. I picked up the 20w head the other day and I'm pretty disappointed overall. The EQ is totally useless, there's far too much treble, and the boost doesn't seem to do anything at all. There's no "plexi" sound unless the master is cranked fully with the Gain, but then it get Muddy. Maybe I just got a bad one, but I don't think so from some of the reviews. I'll keep playing with it and see if I find some useful tones.
@@RByrne I had to return two 50w heads as both had faults. I gave up and got a Marshall Astoria Custom instead second hand. I think they are not well built amps tbh.
I got an Origin 50 head, it's one of the best heads at its price range, especially when you find one for $429 used in mint condition on eBay because people get insecure after reading angry RUclips comments about their new purchase xD
I grew up listening to Hendrix, was at two shows, I was a drummer and went to see the drummer but Hendrix grabbed all my attention, WOW is all I could say, I did not get to Wood stock, parents would not allow that, I was 19.
I got my brand new Origin 50H for 398€ !!! Running in a 2x12 1936V always Marshall, with a couple of Vintage g12. The head Is fantastic for the money, lighter and smaller than a hold plexi and I'm really happy.
Finally a Marshall I like......The 50 watt head would sound great in a cab with 2 g12m's on top and 2 vintage 30's on the bottom.The plexi sound with an fx loop is a bonus for the high gain stuff for those of us who like reverb and delay in the loop......Good review boys cheers
Thanks for the great vid guys, definitely thinking of getting the origin 20 combo cause its just so damned grab and go! Seems everyone does one of these 10" speaker/20 watt combos these days, now I just have to choose between the Marshall one, the fender Princeton or the Vox AC15...
I bought a late 60's Plexi head in 71 and played it for years. I needed the money to get back home. I recently bought the Origin 50 head, you will be glad to know that although there is some difference in tone it is quite negligible. A Plexi is Plexi. This one not being sold ...EVER! A bullet proof tone that still sounds great after decades. Other amps come and go. So think about you buy this amp but once ...no more trading it in to suit the fashion of the day.
I wish for once I could find a decent demo of someone playing a Gibson through these things instead of a Strat every single time. Yeah you played the LP but for a total of like 30 seconds then switched right back to the Fender... I mean let's be honest, the main reason we're interested in Marshalls is because of guys like Clapton, Page, Paul Kossoff, Duane Allman, AC/DC, etc.
Holy shit it sounds amazing im not usually a marshall guy but damn this thing has an aamzing tone more like there older classic tone so happy about this one guys
I was thinking of getting one of these amps but, with the valves plugging directly into the circuit board along with the controls soldered into the board this amp will be on an electrical engineers bench not too far down the line for repairs, you might just as well be useing a Marshall MG amp which are soldered up in a similar way but will probably be much more reliable in the long run.
A Beginner Guitarist's View I played one in guitar center. Was very disappointed. Went over and played the new Blackstar HT Mark 2 40 and was blown away. More versatile and sounded amazing
Psycho Jack Jack depends what you’re into. It a very vintage sound but you have the option of shaping the sound with your favourite pedals. The most important thing to play what you like the sound of.
@@sid35gb That's the point, it's a semi clean base and you can load in your pedal and build from there, buying the 20C tomorrow after trying it out yesterday. Great amp for my purposes which is home
Be aware. Mine was biased pretty hot from the factory. Power tubes didn't last more than 2yrs. With some tung-sols and biased at 35, sounds better than when it was new!
I always had a hard time getting a decent sound out of any Marshall. They just have to be cranked up so loud it’s unusable. At least for me. Which sucks cause all of my favorite players used marshalls
Hmmmm, looks like I need to make a pilgrimage to Germany and visit the other guitar obsessed Thoman(n)s! (We changed it when moved to the States, early 20th ce.)
I just bought a 20 combo from the Origin series today (second hand) and it sounds pretty great! Only played for 2 hours so far but I'm loving it already. I also have the same blue guitar featured in this video by chance! Two of the few things I actually do own! My origin 20 has a slight vibrating sound however when the gain is turned up - hopefully nothing is loose on it!
Hi, I have a 50 combo and also had a problem with some wierd sound when I played louder. Those golden metal pieces at the ends of handle was causing the issue. I took them off and now everything is OK .... maybe it helps :)
All I can say is finally Marshall puts out an amp that has that classic tone and is relatively cheap! It's about damn time! I have the Origin 20, had the 50 but sold it for the 20. After some study realized the 50 was just too much for my use, and while the 20 uses the exact same tube configuration but runs them at a lower voltage to get less power and thus the tubes will last longer it was the perfect size and tone for me! If ya need LOUD then ya also need a PA and so mic the damn thing already, HELLO! Most combos SUCK IMO, cuz sometimes ya want to run a certain speaker for distorted tones and a different one for clean tones, AND swapping speakers is super ez with a head and cabs! + I hate 10" speakers, any amps tone can be enhanced by using a 12" speaker, and sometimes a 15".
Love the sound of this amp this is the first full review ive seen of one the only.other one was the 5 didnt like it to much but man go up to the 20 totally different ball game amazing tone in all of the amps just beautiful sounds more like there classic amps im not usually into marshall amps except for the classics but now zi wouldnt mind owning one of these and p.s that fender sounded amazing on there these new fender player series strats are such a good value and they really out did themselves on the pickups for the price the tone is amazing my favorite tone is still a vox mixed with a fender strat or a fender mixed with a two roxk amp head especially the classic reverb you cant get any better then that
I just got this amp in. It has barely any gain at all, in order to get a proper chugging rock sound the volume and gain has to be way up, dimed in my case with a HSS strat. However, it does have a beautiful clean sound that stays clean if you need it to, and it takes dirt pedals very well, so metal players can still get this to work, though I'd suggest a high gain amp to begin with.
Linh Nguyen it’s an old school amp gun it for the dirt and ride the volume on your guitar to clean it up. It’s got an fx loop so MT-2 for some high gain chug 😎
Soy Boys. Now don't get mad. Think about it. You have access to literally any gear you can think of to do this demo. AND a sound stage. And yet you still use a pedal. Indeed.
batelly211 I’ll tell you what, it’s a bloody awful amp. Had one sent it back. I put the Friedman be od in front of it!!! It sounded awful. They are heavily discounting it, and I now know why, it sounded thin and uninteresting sent it back.My point of the overdrive pedals was made before I tried it out.
Nowt wrong with a good 10" speaker.No.1 upgrade on the 10" equipped Cub 10 is to replace the speaker with a Jensen C10, Mod 10-70 or Mod 10-50. Other speakers are available!.The Pro Junior is another amp running a 10". Both it and the Cub are around 15Watts. The difference between 15W and 20W is about a gnats fart through pantyhose in the grand scheme of things. The Celestion Ten-30 isn't bad once it has been run in for hours. Many hours. Like the Seventy-80, it's a much derided speaker that doesn't give of its best until it has softened up through being driven quite hard with a fuzz to get those violent waves through it.However, could you stand the sound it makes for the hours it takes to soften up?, would you just rip it out and Jensenify it asap to get the sound up?10"'s aren't bad. There are some fantastic 10"'s and a few great amps have had 10"'s from the factory.Given the size of the 20c though, maybe a new, 1/2" ply baffleboard cut for a 12" is in it's future for many owners.
Can you make a second part of the attenuator video? But compare the different load boxes (and/or attenuators with a 'load' feature), like take one amp, one cab IR, and just see if/how the sound differs?
Good work , the op amp into my 1992 plexi 100w reissue made my ears bleed ... found the new green Russian behaved very well . Just ordered the origin 50 and it rings !
Marshall needs to make a 1-12" version with an Alnico Gold! So how come the lowend is so mushy/muddy? If the lowend was clearer and tight I'd get one.. But I'll stick with my two Marshall Astoria Customs!( a combo and a head..) Stupidest thing Marshall has ever done in recent history is discontinue the Astoria's!!!! Too bad they never promoted them like they do the lower end stuff like this. I can get almost any sound I want from the Astoria and it's all valve! No bullshit digital rubbish!
Hi folks !!!got an origin 50 c and hitherto am not satisfied with my settings for a blues rock sound (clean tone with pedals)!!!could you please give us examples of your settings ( tilt, presence, bass, trebble , mid ,gain and volume )to help me improving my tone?alain
I played the 50w very recently. It was a very dry sounding amp and I struggled to get a nice overdriven sound from it, it doesn’t push hard enough to be a good all rounder, even with a Screamer in the front it still felt like it was half way to achieving a great lead tone. To me these amps sound far to nuts and bolts for my taste. Either way like them or not ( I don’t knock you if you do, amps are a very personal choice) don’t discount other brands as there are lots of better amps I think for similar money.
Might as well have called it a Fender strat demo. You showed the Les Paul the amp die like 30 seconds and dedicated the rest of the video to the strat....... Come on!
Nice videos, interesting playing. I want a Marshall Origin 100W 2x12 Combo, & a Head. Can Marshall please name it: The "DMS" range? * Remember, you saw it here 1st. :)
Kris, I’m interested in the Origin Head... initially thought about the 20W because I absolutely don’t need anything more for home and studio use. So I was wondering from a tone point of view, does the 50W head any different from the 20W Head? Since the price is close, I wouldn’t mind to get the 50W is the tone is so much better and closer from the JTM45-Plexi tone. But if the tone is the same, I would prefer to stick with the 20W since it will already be more than I need. Any inputs on that would be welcomed (maybe a compare video?). Thanks!
Hey Phil, thanks for your comment. The 20 and the 50 watts heads will sound pretty much the same, just on different volumes. If you want the gainier Plexi crunch, get the 20, if you want more headroom and wish to actually achieve a semi-clean sound with let’s say a humbucker guitar, go for the 50. Be aware of the brutal volume of the 50w head though. If you want it that crunchy as in the video, you will get thrown out of every band on this planet. 😂 cheers buddy!
Kris Barocsi thanks a lot Kris! Yes that’s what I thought, I’m gonna stick with the choice of the 20W Head then... I already have a great clean amp with high headroom (Two-Rock), so I think the 20W will fit better. I asked because I couldn’t see anywhere if the Preamp were the same or if they were any differences in tones (like it can happen like for instance the Fender Bassbreaker line where every amp is a different one, and not just more watts). Thanks again for the info! PS: also I wanted to say I love that you have the dbmeter on your videos. You’re the only channel to do that but it’s very crucial to figure out the volume in different settings, since cameras generally level the audio and we can’t really figure out without it. Thanks for that too...
just go ahead with the 20 watt. I am using mine in a 6 piece with 2 drummers, and have no issues keeping up at all. Just grab an MX 4 x 12 and let the big Girl eat!
@@KrisBarocsi hi Kriss and thanks for the demo. I am very interested by the 50w head but also very careful about my mates comfort and hence keeping a medium volume. I think the 50w head has a built-in attenuator. Does it not work well? I am mainly looking for the clean mellow and bluesy plexy tone to use with fx. Would tjis head do or should i stick with the 20w head?
every video that ive watched with the origin amps they have a les paul and a strat and BARLEY use the les paul.. I JUST WANT TO HEAR A LES PAUL THROUGH AN ORIGIN
I thought about buying the 50W Head, but no Standby and loud plopping when put on and out if you forget to pull down the volume knob every time. Not good for the speakers. also they have problems that the output jacks not working right. only 1 of the 8Ohm and if you want to play stereo the 2nd 8Ohm output javk doesnt work. huge false by manufacture.
The second speaker out is not for a second 8 Ohm speaker. You can *either* run ONE external 8 Ohm speaker *or* two 16 Ohm speakers. Speaker impedance nomenclature has always been a little confusing to me, but this is the deal.
@@alanshewitt ah ok. i thought 2x8 Ohm because there are 1x 16 Ohm Output Jack and 2 Outputjacks with 8Ohm on the back. So for me it would be more logic that i can put 2x 8ohm cabs on the 2x 8Ohm Output Jacks. But its not the Main thing. I read in comments, internet, magazines etc. that when you put 2 cabs on the stereo outs of the amp, that 1 isn't working and the sound only comes out of 1 cab. There was a manufacturing mistake or something else in thousands marshall origins. But if you play only with 1 cab/mono, who cares about that stereo bug. ;)
You were playing the STrat with the 58 and it had a LOT more high end than the Origin did, very noticeable, were the tone knobs set the same? If not, the 58 sounded so much better.
can someone help me. planning to buy next month to a valve amp. marshall 40cr, fender HRDIV or this origin amp. cause in my country there’s no decent guitat center that can try all of this at once.
chris tian I have a 1987x plexi with a few mods and played an Origin 50 combo today at a store. It was lacking the brutality of a plexi and had no versatility at all. It had a lit of static hiss going regardless of the volume or if the guitar was even plugged in. There are much better amps for same price, and I really wanted to like this amp. The Fender bassbreaker series are way better, and the 40CR gets really great reviews too.
Zombieman ok thx. but it is worth the extra$$ to purchase the silver jubilee mini? tried my friends hot rod devile. and for my ears still cant get away with marshall tones.
chris tian If you want the marshall tones, the mini jubilee should be great. It is basically a jcm800 anniversary model. Perfect for GnR sound, but be aware that the speakers you use have a huge impact on how it sounds. Vintage30 is a great match for the jubilee, and for a more 70's sound use G12M speakers. Personally I buy used gear often, and that way you could maybe get a JVM205 or similar 2x12 combo for the same price as a mini jubilee head..
TheRuiner781 it’s a Marshall they’re solid. The price savings come from being built in Vietnam. Building it in the U.K. with the same parts would be something like 5x the price😉
Both the Origin and the DSL series have their own thing going on. The DSL's are more like a JCM800 / JCM900, and the Origins will give you a Plexi-type flair. Two different worlds, for different kind of players. If you're not using pedals, the DSL's are way more versatile for sure. On the other hand, if you're a pedal guy and need a nice and rich clean sound, the Origin is the better choice. //cheers, Kris
The last Asian made Marshall I bought lasted 5 months. Whereas my 35 year old Jcm800 is still kickin no issues. If it isn't English Marshall don't waste your time.
I have both the katana head and the origin 50 head. I play the katana more. The katana clean is almost fenderish. The origin 50 sounds amazing pushed with a OCD or a tone bender type pedal but you really have to crank it the origin clean is kinda dull to my ears. I run them both into Mesa V30 recto 2x12 closed back cabs. For me I like the katana a bit more
Iol...I grew up on Marshalls too...back in the 70s using early 70s and late 60s heads, cabs n combos...and if they'd sounded that bad we'd have thrown them off the stage!! Just sound cheap and broken...lol...so sad...sign of the times I guess...nothing lasts forever...
I’m sorry, but the Origins are Chinese junk. 🤢 I’ve tried them; one of those extincted by natural selection, devoid of character & punch, Marshall amps. Plexis, JCM800 & SJubilees. I’ll add JCM900s. We don’t really need many more Marshalls.
How can someone demo and amp or a guitar when they can't play the instrument very well to begin with? And I'm asking that question with respect! In my opinion, no one could get a reasonable idea what these amps are capable of because of the limited playing abilities of the demonstrators. Come on guys! if you can't cut it, hire a damn real guitar player to demo your amps!
Les paul yay! 30 seconds later back to the strat. I watched 30 seconds of this video because it was made by 2 snobby strat guys. its always the strat guys who think everyone plays a strat.
Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Johnson, Mayer, Guy, SRV, Malmsteen, Gilmour, Knopfler... and list goes on and on. Gibson, not so much. So, Fender wins! There simply is much more of us who play Strat so, sorry man😉
Marshall will raise your children? Very cool.... How much do they charge? Do they accept most health insurance?
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*"Marshall Origin - the better 'Plexi'"?* Are you kidding me? - How can a budgetal priced " made in Vietnam"-thing produced in chord-work on assembly lines by underpaid vietnam workers be able to catch the sonic spirit of the true plexi-amp-legend?- - This "Origin" doesn't even have a "standby" switch for the poor tubes! (Ĺaughable!) - I have checked the amp by myself (one of my students bought one...) ...the "Origin" sound is *lightyears away from that of a real Plexi- Marshall* - for a little more money you better may buy - just for example - a small "Orange" amp and get 100% more of the true "british sound" that this type of amps are loved and well-known for! By the way - the "origin" reviews in some magazines are a fantastic example how unreliable those musicians' magazin reviews are! - I compared two reviews of the "Marshall Origine 50 H" in two well-known and established "musicians magazins' ( I won't mention the names)..Magazin one praised the "Origin" as if it was the best classical tube amp ever made, the second one panned the amp to pieces! - How can this be? I mean, if the amp is made well, then there couldn't have been such a gaping difference in the estimations of the critics, or what? - To me, it looks more and more, that certain magazines have certain interests to cheer up certain products for reasons that I don't know, but maybe at least it has to do with money.... Anyway....to me the "Marshall Origin" is a - lets not say "cheap" - lets say "inexpensive" tube amp of no ravishing production quality. If you take the time, to adjust the controls of the amp a bit in the right way, it has an, let's say, "acceptable" sound (not more!) , but does not even reach close to the true "Plexi" legends, as f.e the MRT1959 - and - in my opinion - at this price level (around 500 bucks) there are other tube amps from factories, that perhaps don't have the "Marshall"-logo, but are much closer to the original and more versatile in sound and of a better product quality - for the same (or even less) money! If you want my opinion - there are people, who play with the desire of young, perhaps yet unexperienced guitar-players, who can be fascinated by a product, that LOOKS LIKE (!) being built in the tradition of a legendary amp-line without being expensive - but in my eyes, the relevant features of the "Origin" don't meet the expectations when the chips are down. If you want to pay all your bucks just for having a "Marshall"-logo on your amp...okay, thats your decision, but I fear, in THIS case you probably have got something completly wrong.., something that is central in connection with the search for a good sound ... All said ..., Stay healthy, all the best, Andy
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I'm always saying every RUclips guitar channel should have a DB level meter so we can get an actual idea of how loud something is when they are mic'ing in room playing.
Your're welcome! ;)
//Andy
I run my Origin 50 head into a Weber Mass III, then into an 8-ohm 2X12 pine cab loaded with a UK-made Celestion V30 and a Weber Silver Bell. From my own personal experience, I agree that the Origin series as used by most people (turn up the gain, master volume to taste/ before neighbours complain) will simply NOT yield the plexi tone in your head. The pre-amp gain alone will sound congested and unrefined.
Instead, because I have the attenuator, I can crank the master volume, and bring up the gain to taste. Then I will use the presence, TMB tone stack and tilt control to dial in the sound I want. These 5 controls allow me to set the amp up for ANY guitar I can throw at it: Les Paul, SG, Strat, Tele inclusive. Just watch the treble and presence controls; this amp can get bright very quickly.
For those who are predisposed to hating on the amp simply because it's not made in England, get yourself a good attenuator and try the approach I mentioned above, and be objective.
Hay you totally missed the fact that the Origins have a superb built in attenuator.
Its pretty rubbish tbh. Anything less than High and you lose all the bass. It is however better than the crappy in-line resistor garbage other maker's use .. The only thing that really lets these amps down is the DI, which is junk. Every other aspect its a 10/10. The PCB and components look pretty good too. Good enough for at least 20 years hard use. Can't go wrong for $250.
@@cgavin1 I don’t know About that, I have It on the 5 and 10 watt setting most of the time and I get plenty of bass I run mids on 5 bass on 4.5 and treble on 6, presence on 2.5 master on 4-5 and gain 7.5 pulled out
What all these affordable amps have is input signal attenuation. Full power is no resistance to your guitar signal. The power selector is a variable potentiometer to cut input signal. An output transformer with multiple power taps is cost prohibitive for these amps
No, the attenuator in this is terrible. I picked up the 20w head the other day and I'm pretty disappointed overall. The EQ is totally useless, there's far too much treble, and the boost doesn't seem to do anything at all. There's no "plexi" sound unless the master is cranked fully with the Gain, but then it get Muddy. Maybe I just got a bad one, but I don't think so from some of the reviews. I'll keep playing with it and see if I find some useful tones.
@@RByrne I had to return two 50w heads as both had faults. I gave up and got a Marshall Astoria Custom instead second hand. I think they are not well built amps tbh.
I got an Origin 50 head, it's one of the best heads at its price range, especially when you find one for $429 used in mint condition on eBay because people get insecure after reading angry RUclips comments about their new purchase xD
ya I never understand ppl basing their opinions on comments without actually trying the product!!
I grew up listening to Hendrix, was at two shows, I was a drummer and went to see the drummer but Hendrix grabbed all my attention, WOW is all I could say, I did not get to Wood stock, parents would not allow that, I was 19.
I got my brand new Origin 50H for 398€ !!! Running in a 2x12 1936V always Marshall, with a couple of Vintage g12. The head Is fantastic for the money, lighter and smaller than a hold plexi and I'm really happy.
Finally a Marshall I like......The 50 watt head would sound great in a cab with 2 g12m's on top and 2 vintage 30's on the bottom.The plexi sound with an fx loop is a bonus for the high gain stuff for those of us who like reverb and delay in the loop......Good review boys cheers
Thanks for the great vid guys, definitely thinking of getting the origin 20 combo cause its just so damned grab and go! Seems everyone does one of these 10" speaker/20 watt combos these days, now I just have to choose between the Marshall one, the fender Princeton or the Vox AC15...
I bought a late 60's Plexi head in 71 and played it for years. I needed the money to get back home. I recently bought the Origin 50 head, you will be glad to know that although there is some difference in tone it is quite negligible. A Plexi is Plexi. This one not being sold ...EVER! A bullet proof tone that still sounds great after decades. Other amps come and go. So think about
you buy this amp but once ...no more trading it in to suit the fashion of the day.
I wish for once I could find a decent demo of someone playing a Gibson through these things instead of a Strat every single time. Yeah you played the LP but for a total of like 30 seconds then switched right back to the Fender... I mean let's be honest, the main reason we're interested in Marshalls is because of guys like Clapton, Page, Paul Kossoff, Duane Allman, AC/DC, etc.
I mean, come on. There are plenty of famous strat/marshall players in history, too.
Dagger 323 its cause the origin doesnt sound very nice with humbuckers
OrionsVantage Do you own a Les Paul and a Origin head?? I dont think so!!!!
I agree. Way too many youtubers just play on strats or teles. I want to hear Jackson and Ibanez and Schecter being played on these!
I play mine with a les paul and it sounds good.
So did I miss the Les Paul thru the Origin or do they skip it?
Dig my 20h. I actually prefer it to the 50 as the 20h sags like an elderly lady.
i thought ''man what a sound'' at 0:03 ... realised it wasn't the origin - was the 1959
Same
That's tragic, eh! 😂
Holy shit it sounds amazing im not usually a marshall guy but damn this thing has an aamzing tone more like there older classic tone so happy about this one guys
Finally a video that really shows what thing can do 👍
2:37 oh my goddd
I was thinking of getting one of these amps but, with the valves plugging directly into the circuit board along with the controls soldered into the board this amp will be on an electrical engineers bench not too far down the line for repairs, you might just as well be useing a Marshall MG amp which are soldered up in a similar way but will probably be much more reliable in the long run.
run the origin 20 head into a celestion g12m greenback and you become hendrix trust me.
Surprised how good that Strat sounds through the Origen. Both amps sound great...slight difference.
My favourite two people named Andy and Kris in the room I got really familiar with few weeks ago
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I like watching people that know what there talking about.
I think they've got it right with the Origin series, although I'd have loved an on-board reverb (but understand their thinking in leaving it out)
A Beginner Guitarist's View I played one in guitar center. Was very disappointed.
Went over and played the new Blackstar HT Mark 2 40 and was blown away. More versatile and sounded amazing
Psycho Jack Jack depends what you’re into. It a very vintage sound but you have the option of shaping the sound with your favourite pedals.
The most important thing to play what you like the sound of.
@@sid35gb That's the point, it's a semi clean base and you can load in your pedal and build from there, buying the 20C tomorrow after trying it out yesterday. Great amp for my purposes which is home
The fact that it doesn't have a second channel is kind of a deal breaker.
Be aware. Mine was biased pretty hot from the factory. Power tubes didn't last more than 2yrs. With some tung-sols and biased at 35, sounds better than when it was new!
Very helpful video review.
I'm buying an Orange.
(My DSL1CR crushes the Origin Series as demoed here.)
say anything you want, but theres nothing like playing gibson through plexi
Anything you want, but there’s nothing like playing gibson through a plexi.
How about epiphone lp special through line 6 spider?
Boii Bouillon classic
Gabe King : look at 2minutes 36 secondes... It's the bridge pick up.
I always had a hard time getting a decent sound out of any Marshall. They just have to be cranked up so loud it’s unusable. At least for me. Which sucks cause all of my favorite players used marshalls
Hmmmm, looks like I need to make a pilgrimage to Germany and visit the other guitar obsessed Thoman(n)s! (We changed it when moved to the States, early 20th ce.)
Now I want a 1959 HW! 😢
I just bought a 20 combo from the Origin series today (second hand) and it sounds pretty great! Only played for 2 hours so far but I'm loving it already. I also have the same blue guitar featured in this video by chance! Two of the few things I actually do own! My origin 20 has a slight vibrating sound however when the gain is turned up - hopefully nothing is loose on it!
Hi, I have a 50 combo and also had a problem with some wierd sound when I played louder. Those golden metal pieces at the ends of handle was causing the issue. I took them off and now everything is OK .... maybe it helps :)
@@kubec18 Thanks Jakub. I might try!!
All I can say is finally Marshall puts out an amp that has that classic tone and is relatively cheap! It's about damn time! I have the Origin 20, had the 50 but sold it for the 20.
After some study realized the 50 was just too much for my use, and while the 20 uses the exact same tube configuration but runs them at a lower voltage to get less power and thus the tubes will last longer it was the perfect size and tone for me! If ya need LOUD then ya also need a PA and so mic the damn thing already, HELLO! Most combos SUCK IMO, cuz sometimes ya want to run a certain speaker for distorted tones and a different one for clean tones, AND swapping speakers is super ez with a head and cabs! + I hate 10" speakers, any amps tone can be enhanced by using a 12" speaker, and sometimes a 15".
Love the sound of this amp this is the first full review ive seen of one the only.other one was the 5 didnt like it to much but man go up to the 20 totally different ball game amazing tone in all of the amps just beautiful sounds more like there classic amps im not usually into marshall amps except for the classics but now zi wouldnt mind owning one of these and p.s that fender sounded amazing on there these new fender player series strats are such a good value and they really out did themselves on the pickups for the price the tone is amazing my favorite tone is still a vox mixed with a fender strat or a fender mixed with a two roxk amp head especially the classic reverb you cant get any better then that
that plexi would sound better if it was connected to a cabinet with greenbacks, v30's are way too bright for plexis
My OR50C sounds killer with my little big muff, don’t know why is that bad in this demo..
I just got this amp in. It has barely any gain at all, in order to get a proper chugging rock sound the volume and gain has to be way up, dimed in my case with a HSS strat. However, it does have a beautiful clean sound that stays clean if you need it to, and it takes dirt pedals very well, so metal players can still get this to work, though I'd suggest a high gain amp to begin with.
Linh Nguyen it’s an old school amp gun it for the dirt and ride the volume on your guitar to clean it up. It’s got an fx loop so MT-2 for some high gain chug 😎
How the fuck are there so many people that are this ignorant. Do some research. It's not a metal amp.
Why are you using overdrive pedals with a nice valve amp like the origin in a demo????
Soy Boys.
Now don't get mad.
Think about it. You have access to literally any gear you can think of to do this demo.
AND a sound stage.
And yet you still use a pedal.
Indeed.
its a one channel amp it doesn't get a heavy overdrive without a pedal.
@@batelly211 Mine does just fine. o_0
@@cgavin1 do you turn it up to 10?
batelly211 I’ll tell you what, it’s a bloody awful amp. Had one sent it back. I put the Friedman be od in front of it!!! It sounded awful. They are heavily discounting it, and I now know why, it sounded thin and uninteresting sent it back.My point of the overdrive pedals was made before I tried it out.
,the big muff sound horrible
Good to see Andy on here. Still think the DSL's might be the way to go. 10" in a 20 watt? Go figure!
Mark Stanford hey Mark! That's pretty much why I went for the 50
Mark Stanford DSL blows
Nowt wrong with a good 10" speaker.No.1 upgrade on the 10" equipped Cub 10 is to replace the speaker with a Jensen C10, Mod 10-70 or Mod 10-50. Other speakers are available!.The Pro Junior is another amp running a 10". Both it and the Cub are around 15Watts. The difference between 15W and 20W is about a gnats fart through pantyhose in the grand scheme of things.
The Celestion Ten-30 isn't bad once it has been run in for hours. Many hours. Like the Seventy-80, it's a much derided speaker that doesn't give of its best until it has softened up through being driven quite hard with a fuzz to get those violent waves through it.However, could you stand the sound it makes for the hours it takes to soften up?, would you just rip it out and Jensenify it asap to get the sound up?10"'s aren't bad. There are some fantastic 10"'s and a few great amps have had 10"'s from the factory.Given the size of the 20c though, maybe a new, 1/2" ply baffleboard cut for a 12" is in it's future for many owners.
Can you make a second part of the attenuator video? But compare the different load boxes (and/or attenuators with a 'load' feature), like take one amp, one cab IR, and just see if/how the sound differs?
Good work , the op amp into my 1992 plexi 100w reissue made my ears bleed ... found the new green Russian behaved very well . Just ordered the origin 50 and it rings !
Thanks guys, may I ask what model is the stand db meter on the amp?? Cheers
Here you go :) tho.mn/fsq83
Is the drive from the pedal or amp
Marshall needs to make a 1-12" version with an Alnico Gold! So how come the lowend is so mushy/muddy? If the lowend was clearer and tight I'd get one.. But I'll stick with my two Marshall Astoria Customs!( a combo and a head..) Stupidest thing Marshall has ever done in recent history is discontinue the Astoria's!!!! Too bad they never promoted them like they do the lower end stuff like this. I can get almost any sound I want from the Astoria and it's all valve! No bullshit digital rubbish!
Hi folks !!!got an origin 50 c and hitherto am not satisfied with my settings for a blues rock sound (clean tone with pedals)!!!could you please give us examples of your settings ( tilt, presence, bass, trebble , mid ,gain and volume )to help me improving my tone?alain
Dialed-in at 12:00 with a Strat plugged-in. This a a Plexi discussion, right?
I played the 50w very recently. It was a very dry sounding amp and I struggled to get a nice overdriven sound from it, it doesn’t push hard enough to be a good all rounder, even with a Screamer in the front it still felt like it was half way to achieving a great lead tone. To me these amps sound far to nuts and bolts for my taste. Either way like them or not ( I don’t knock you if you do, amps are a very personal choice) don’t discount other brands as there are lots of better amps I think for similar money.
For me the best plexi is the fredman be 100
Can i use it at home? its too much?
Might as well have called it a Fender strat demo. You showed the Les Paul the amp die like 30 seconds and dedicated the rest of the video to the strat....... Come on!
actually I like it with strat more, but you are right - more LP would be useful
Can you play more saturated stuff? With pedals like hard rock?
Nice videos, interesting playing.
I want a Marshall Origin 100W 2x12 Combo, & a Head.
Can Marshall please name it: The "DMS" range?
* Remember, you saw it here 1st. :)
1959HW has more gritt and snarl than the Origin
GO ANDREW !
GuitarGAS hey man! Thanks
Kris, I’m interested in the Origin Head... initially thought about the 20W because I absolutely don’t need anything more for home and studio use. So I was wondering from a tone point of view, does the 50W head any different from the 20W Head? Since the price is close, I wouldn’t mind to get the 50W is the tone is so much better and closer from the JTM45-Plexi tone. But if the tone is the same, I would prefer to stick with the 20W since it will already be more than I need. Any inputs on that would be welcomed (maybe a compare video?). Thanks!
Hey Phil, thanks for your comment. The 20 and the 50 watts heads will sound pretty much the same, just on different volumes. If you want the gainier Plexi crunch, get the 20, if you want more headroom and wish to actually achieve a semi-clean sound with let’s say a humbucker guitar, go for the 50. Be aware of the brutal volume of the 50w head though. If you want it that crunchy as in the video, you will get thrown out of every band on this planet. 😂 cheers buddy!
Kris Barocsi thanks a lot Kris! Yes that’s what I thought, I’m gonna stick with the choice of the 20W Head then... I already have a great clean amp with high headroom (Two-Rock), so I think the 20W will fit better. I asked because I couldn’t see anywhere if the Preamp were the same or if they were any differences in tones (like it can happen like for instance the Fender Bassbreaker line where every amp is a different one, and not just more watts). Thanks again for the info!
PS: also I wanted to say I love that you have the dbmeter on your videos. You’re the only channel to do that but it’s very crucial to figure out the volume in different settings, since cameras generally level the audio and we can’t really figure out without it. Thanks for that too...
just go ahead with the 20 watt. I am using mine in a 6 piece with 2 drummers, and have no issues keeping up at all. Just grab an MX 4 x 12 and let the big Girl eat!
@@KrisBarocsi hi Kriss and thanks for the demo. I am very interested by the 50w head but also very careful about my mates comfort and hence keeping a medium volume. I think the 50w head has a built-in attenuator. Does it not work well? I am mainly looking for the clean mellow and bluesy plexy tone to use with fx. Would tjis head do or should i stick with the 20w head?
I need a Plexi...
every video that ive watched with the origin amps they have a les paul and a strat and BARLEY use the les paul.. I JUST WANT TO HEAR A LES PAUL THROUGH AN ORIGIN
I thought about buying the 50W Head, but no Standby and loud plopping when put on and out if you forget to pull down the volume knob every time. Not good for the speakers. also they have problems that the output jacks not working right. only 1 of the 8Ohm and if you want to play stereo the 2nd 8Ohm output javk doesnt work. huge false by manufacture.
The second speaker out is not for a second 8 Ohm speaker. You can *either* run ONE external 8 Ohm speaker *or* two 16 Ohm speakers. Speaker impedance nomenclature has always been a little confusing to me, but this is the deal.
@@alanshewitt ah ok. i thought 2x8 Ohm because there are 1x 16 Ohm Output Jack and 2 Outputjacks with 8Ohm on the back. So for me it would be more logic that i can put 2x 8ohm cabs on the 2x 8Ohm Output Jacks. But its not the Main thing. I read in comments, internet, magazines etc. that when you put 2 cabs on the stereo outs of the amp, that 1 isn't working and the sound only comes out of 1 cab. There was a manufacturing mistake or something else in thousands marshall origins. But if you play only with 1 cab/mono, who cares about that stereo bug. ;)
You were playing the STrat with the 58 and it had a LOT more high end than the Origin did, very noticeable, were the tone knobs set the same? If not, the 58 sounded so much better.
I just spit-taked reading that thumbnail title. 😂 An Origin will never be confused as a Plexi
can someone help me. planning to buy next month to a valve amp. marshall 40cr, fender HRDIV or this origin amp. cause in my country there’s no decent guitat center that can try all of this at once.
chris tian I have a 1987x plexi with a few mods and played an Origin 50 combo today at a store. It was lacking the brutality of a plexi and had no versatility at all. It had a lit of static hiss going regardless of the volume or if the guitar was even plugged in.
There are much better amps for same price, and I really wanted to like this amp.
The Fender bassbreaker series are way better, and the 40CR gets really great reviews too.
Zombieman ok thx. but it is worth the extra$$ to purchase the silver jubilee mini? tried my friends hot rod devile. and for my ears still cant get away with marshall tones.
chris tian If you want the marshall tones, the mini jubilee should be great. It is basically a jcm800 anniversary model. Perfect for GnR sound, but be aware that the speakers you use have a huge impact on how it sounds. Vintage30 is a great match for the jubilee, and for a more 70's sound use G12M speakers.
Personally I buy used gear often, and that way you could maybe get a JVM205 or similar 2x12 combo for the same price as a mini jubilee head..
is the the new fender player series strat?
Aravis yes it is! Be prepared for something cool coming up with that guitar very soon. 😉
Oh fuck the valvestate was awesome
I am currently trying to buy one.... just to see how good it was.
//Andy
I heard he changes his name from Ferriakis.
And people actually like that crap tone at 11:00?
How's the build quality? Im just afraid that it will blow up on stage, for this amazing price. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheRuiner781 it’s a Marshall they’re solid. The price savings come from being built in Vietnam. Building it in the U.K. with the same parts would be something like 5x the price😉
They sound decent but the DSL series is a better choice with that classic Marshall tone and its affordable.
Both the Origin and the DSL series have their own thing going on. The DSL's are more like a JCM800 / JCM900, and the Origins will give you a Plexi-type flair. Two different worlds, for different kind of players. If you're not using pedals, the DSL's are way more versatile for sure. On the other hand, if you're a pedal guy and need a nice and rich clean sound, the Origin is the better choice. //cheers, Kris
The last Asian made Marshall I bought lasted 5 months. Whereas my 35 year old Jcm800 is still kickin no issues. If it isn't English Marshall don't waste your time.
Yes totally agree with you, my 79 Marshall valve amp 50w master volume 2x12 combo is STILL producing the sound.
wow, didn't know dr Harrison Wells from Earth Prime played guitar
Hahaha LOL 😂🤣
This or katana 50?
This...
Katana Artist
Both are completely different types of amps, but I think the Katana has a great clean for a solid state amp and takes pedals reaaallly well.... ;)
I have both the katana head and the origin 50 head. I play the katana more. The katana clean is almost fenderish. The origin 50 sounds amazing pushed with a OCD or a tone bender type pedal but you really have to crank it the origin clean is kinda dull to my ears. I run them both into Mesa V30 recto 2x12 closed back cabs. For me I like the katana a bit more
Orign sound crappy, no ?
There is no better plexi, than a real plexi, so long as you can deal with the volume.
PLEASE MARSHALL MAKE AN ORIGIN 100 AND YOULL HAVE MY MONEY
Big Muff SUCKS!
Why make a comparison using a crap effect like a Big Muff??
No beer for booth!
Let me give everyone a bit of advice. Go and play the new Blackstar HT 40 Mark 2.
Blows this amp away.
I was completely surprised
Bug muffs generally need a clean amp to go into. You just gonna get mush with the amp dirty.
rank amateur demo... these guys don't get the art of a demo
Poor excuse for a demo, the guy acted like he was afraid to play the guitar.
I was!
//Andy
plexi is real, origin is toy "Vintage" is just maketing terminology (especially when it's printed and not hardwired).
Iol...I grew up on Marshalls too...back in the 70s using early 70s and late 60s heads, cabs n combos...and if they'd sounded that bad we'd have thrown them off the stage!! Just sound cheap and broken...lol...so sad...sign of the times I guess...nothing lasts forever...
Sounds toi Asian to me. Mr. Hendrix has got to be turning over in his grave.
I can promise that in the room is was very impressive (When Kris played)
//Andy
I’m sorry, but the Origins are Chinese junk. 🤢
I’ve tried them; one of those extincted by natural selection, devoid of character & punch,
Marshall amps.
Plexis, JCM800 & SJubilees.
I’ll add JCM900s.
We don’t really need many more Marshalls.
Lots of Chinese Junk built in your " ASSEMBLED in England " amps too Loi .
@@motorrebell; Built in America, my LPD Eighty7 pedal is sounding EXACTLY like the real JCM800!
Check it out on Big Hairy Guitars, bro!
Should be no pedals. Just the amps.
Now it's clear that the 1959 HW sounds way better than the Origin.
Screw circuit board amps junk ok for home use don’t gig with
How can someone demo and amp or a guitar when they can't play the instrument very well to begin with? And I'm asking that question with respect! In my opinion, no one could get a reasonable idea what these amps are capable of because of the limited playing abilities of the demonstrators. Come on guys! if you can't cut it, hire a damn real guitar player to demo your amps!
Demo'ing a marshall with a big muff? Not exactly a classic combo
Les paul yay! 30 seconds later back to the strat. I watched 30 seconds of this video because it was made by 2 snobby strat guys. its always the strat guys who think everyone plays a strat.
Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Johnson, Mayer, Guy, SRV, Malmsteen, Gilmour, Knopfler... and list goes on and on. Gibson, not so much. So, Fender wins! There simply is much more of us who play Strat so, sorry man😉
Marshall will raise your children? Very cool.... How much do they charge? Do they accept most health insurance?
*"Marshall Origin - the better 'Plexi'"?*
Are you kidding me? - How can a budgetal priced " made in Vietnam"-thing produced in chord-work on assembly lines by underpaid vietnam workers be able to catch the sonic spirit of the true plexi-amp-legend?-
- This "Origin" doesn't even have a "standby" switch for the poor tubes! (Ĺaughable!) - I have checked the amp by myself (one of my students bought one...) ...the "Origin" sound is *lightyears away from that of a real Plexi- Marshall* - for a little more money you better may buy - just for example - a small "Orange" amp and get 100% more of the true "british sound" that this type of amps are loved and well-known for!
By the way - the "origin" reviews in some magazines are a fantastic example how unreliable those musicians' magazin reviews are! - I compared two reviews of the "Marshall Origine 50 H" in two well-known and established "musicians magazins' ( I won't mention the names)..Magazin one praised the "Origin" as if it was the best classical tube amp ever made, the second one panned the amp to pieces!
- How can this be? I mean, if the amp is made well, then there couldn't have been such a gaping difference in the estimations of the critics, or what? -
To me, it looks more and more, that certain magazines have certain interests to cheer up certain products for reasons that I don't know, but maybe at least it has to do with money....
Anyway....to me the "Marshall Origin" is a - lets not say "cheap" - lets say "inexpensive" tube amp of no ravishing production quality. If you take the time, to adjust the controls of the amp a bit in the right way, it has an, let's say, "acceptable" sound (not more!) , but does not even reach close to the true "Plexi" legends, as f.e the MRT1959 - and - in my opinion - at this price level (around 500 bucks) there are other tube amps from factories, that perhaps don't have the "Marshall"-logo, but are much closer to the original and more versatile in sound and of a better product quality
- for the same (or even less) money!
If you want my opinion - there are people, who play with the desire of young, perhaps yet unexperienced guitar-players, who can be fascinated by a product, that LOOKS LIKE (!) being built in the tradition of a legendary amp-line without being expensive - but in my eyes, the relevant features of the "Origin" don't meet the expectations when the chips are down.
If you want to pay all your bucks just for having a "Marshall"-logo on your amp...okay, thats your decision, but I fear, in THIS case you probably have got something completly wrong.., something that is central in connection with the search for a good sound ...
All said ...,
Stay healthy, all the best,
Andy
Malísimo review!!! Marshall se prueba con Gibson Les Paul., ustedes lo hicieron casi todo el video con una fender strato.
Pésimo review
Gibson18 no